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Comments on: Plogger http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/ Notes from a wandering developer in Minneapolis Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:34:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Juice’s BLOG » Blog Archive » Plogger Gallery http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-2229 Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:41:32 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-2229 [...] 쓸만한 플러그인과 테마를 찾다가 우연히 발견한 웹 사진첩이다. 워드플러스와 연동도 된다. plogger은 http://www.plogger.org gallery2보 [...] […] 쓸만한 플러그인과 테마를 찾다가 우연히 발견한 웹 사진첩이다. 워드플러스와 연동도 된다. plogger은 http://www.plogger.org gallery2보 […]

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by: Die Blochers - Geschichten aus dem Blochhaus #1 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1528 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:01:30 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1528 [...] rk" title="Plogger"> Plogger abgelegt unter: worldwideweb Plogger ist ein recht nettes und hbsches Tool, um eine eigene Webgallerie ala Fli [...] […] rk” title=”Plogger”> Plogger abgelegt unter: worldwideweb Plogger ist ein recht nettes und hbsches Tool, um eine eigene Webgallerie ala Fli […]

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by: Darren http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1315 Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:16:59 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1315 Great job here guys!! What I am looking for is a gallery like this, but where members of my blog can upload photographs to a gallery, which can be viewed by everyone on the main blog. Keep up the superb work!! Darren Great job here guys!! What I am looking for is a gallery like this, but where members of my blog can upload photographs to a gallery, which can be viewed by everyone on the main blog.

Keep up the superb work!!

Darren

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by: Mike http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1310 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:18:36 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1310 Just a quick note for everyone. It was just pointed out to me that that are two different plogger folders in the zip file, "Plogger" and "plogger". If you're extracting in Windows this will not cause a problem, however in any Unix based OS (where the filesystem is case sensitive) you will get two seperate directories. <em>There should only be one Plogger directory.</em> It doesn't matter what you call it, you can call it "Francis" for all I care... it will still work. I've repackaged the files, the default directory name should be lower-case "plogger" now. If you're on Linux, just move all the files in "Plogger" to the "plogger" directory. If you're in Windows, you can change the directory name to lowercase and still be ok. Hope this is not too confusing... if so, you can always just redownload the thing, the package is fixed now. Just a quick note for everyone. It was just pointed out to me that that are two different plogger folders in the zip file, “Plogger” and “plogger”. If you’re extracting in Windows this will not cause a problem, however in any Unix based OS (where the filesystem is case sensitive) you will get two seperate directories.

There should only be one Plogger directory.

It doesn’t matter what you call it, you can call it “Francis” for all I care… it will still work. I’ve repackaged the files, the default directory name should be lower-case “plogger” now.

If you’re on Linux, just move all the files in “Plogger” to the “plogger” directory. If you’re in Windows, you can change the directory name to lowercase and still be ok.

Hope this is not too confusing… if so, you can always just redownload the thing, the package is fixed now.

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by: Jack http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1309 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:12:36 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1309 Just a quick reply on that Mike: I totally agree and I'm a complete css-fan and most of my sites are tableless. But it's impossible at this time to get a simple horizontal en vertical center alignment with css. Therefore I reintroduced tables whenever I find them handy (especially for vertical centering of elements and 100% height property in a page). This is no critique and I don't want to start a discussion about css/tables (there are better places for that). Like I said, just a quick reply ;). Just a quick reply on that Mike: I totally agree and I’m a complete css-fan and most of my sites are tableless. But it’s impossible at this time to get a simple horizontal en vertical center alignment with css. Therefore I reintroduced tables whenever I find them handy (especially for vertical centering of elements and 100% height property in a page).

This is no critique and I don’t want to start a discussion about css/tables (there are better places for that). Like I said, just a quick reply ;).

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by: Mike http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1306 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:33:06 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1306 Initially, we had the entire thumbnail gallery placed within a table. The user had to specify the number of columns and Plogger would create a little grid. This fixed the problem of aligning different sized thumbnails, but to me reeked of old school design. Although there are still some tables in the display code, I am trying to move away from that direction entirely into the realm of pure CSS. If there is a better way to do this in CSS (to address the alignment issues), someone please let me know. Initially, we had the entire thumbnail gallery placed within a table. The user had to specify the number of columns and Plogger would create a little grid. This fixed the problem of aligning different sized thumbnails, but to me reeked of old school design. Although there are still some tables in the display code, I am trying to move away from that direction entirely into the realm of pure CSS.

If there is a better way to do this in CSS (to address the alignment issues), someone please let me know.

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by: Jack http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1305 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:05:01 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1305 Hello Mike, You're right as to the thumbnails, although this is a css problem. Choosing to place the thumbs in a table would solve this. Personally I find that the page gets more symetrical, balanced, when thumbs are the same size and centered instead of a few rows that are shorter dan others. But perhaps I can change that myself in the code. :) Hello Mike,

You’re right as to the thumbnails, although this is a css problem. Choosing to place the thumbs in a table would solve this. Personally I find that the page gets more symetrical, balanced, when thumbs are the same size and centered instead of a few rows that are shorter dan others. But perhaps I can change that myself in the code. :)

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by: BB http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1304 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:47:20 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1304 I see with Plogger the same problem I see with all other image galleries that have a slideshow (previous/next) feature. Each time you go to the previous or next image, you are bounced up to the top of the page, where the site header and navbar invariably resides. Why can't you make it so the previous or next image is centered in the user's browser as that is what s/he wants to see? Scrolling down to view each image is not very convenient. Again, all of the image gallery apps I have seen have this problem. That is why I like Gallery's javabased fullscreen viewer. It actually lets users go from image to image without having to worry about scrolling. Still, one does not need to browse images fullscreen. A simple user-friendly feature, like described above, would suffice. I would use Plogger, if I didn't have to vertical scroll after every image change. I see with Plogger the same problem I see with all other image galleries that have a slideshow (previous/next) feature. Each time you go to the previous or next image, you are bounced up to the top of the page, where the site header and navbar invariably resides.

Why can’t you make it so the previous or next image is centered in the user’s browser as that is what s/he wants to see? Scrolling down to view each image is not very convenient. Again, all of the image gallery apps I have seen have this problem. That is why I like Gallery’s javabased fullscreen viewer. It actually lets users go from image to image without having to worry about scrolling.

Still, one does not need to browse images fullscreen. A simple user-friendly feature, like described above, would suffice. I would use Plogger, if I didn’t have to vertical scroll after every image change.

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by: Mike http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1303 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:39:50 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1303 Jack -- Suggestions are welcome! The software is for you guys, so we are very interested in what you want out of it. The EXIF data is hidden by default, the user has the choice the reveal it or leave it hidden. It may be useless information to you, but the person browsing your gallery might be interested in the settings you used on your camera to get a particular shot. Creating albums within albums would involve a complete restructuring of Plogger, so this probably won't happen. I think you can create a sufficiently complex depth of organization with two levels. Having a popup instead of _blank for the largest image will be a feature in the next beta. The reason I chose to specify the height for the thumbnails and not the width pertains to the way that HTML reflows an inline list with variable sized elements. If all the elements are not the same height, rows will get stuck on the protruding elements of the above row. For example, if the second image in the first row is taller than the rest of pictures, the second row will begin in the middle of the page, right after the second picture. Ultimately, you could change the code quite easily if you wanted it to behave differently. The thumbnail resizing code is designed to keep the proportion of your original photo automatically. Thanks for the suggestions! Jack — Suggestions are welcome! The software is for you guys, so we are very interested in what you want out of it.

The EXIF data is hidden by default, the user has the choice the reveal it or leave it hidden. It may be useless information to you, but the person browsing your gallery might be interested in the settings you used on your camera to get a particular shot.

Creating albums within albums would involve a complete restructuring of Plogger, so this probably won’t happen. I think you can create a sufficiently complex depth of organization with two levels.

Having a popup instead of _blank for the largest image will be a feature in the next beta.

The reason I chose to specify the height for the thumbnails and not the width pertains to the way that HTML reflows an inline list with variable sized elements. If all the elements are not the same height, rows will get stuck on the protruding elements of the above row. For example, if the second image in the first row is taller than the rest of pictures, the second row will begin in the middle of the page, right after the second picture.

Ultimately, you could change the code quite easily if you wanted it to behave differently. The thumbnail resizing code is designed to keep the proportion of your original photo automatically. Thanks for the suggestions!

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by: Jack http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1302 Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:39:25 +0000 http://www.solanosystems.com/archives/2005/04/03/plogger/#comment-1302 This looks like a very good gallery! Is there room for a few suggestions/questions perhaps? - option of disabling the exifdata totally (find it rather useless information) - possibility of sub-sub-sub albums if necessary (like fauna=&#62;animals=&#62;insects=&#62;beetles)? - possibility of popup instead of _blank for the largest image? - option to set thumbnails 'largest size' instead of max. height, so 3/4 sized images will always have the same proportion, wether horizontal or vertical. thanks! This looks like a very good gallery! Is there room for a few suggestions/questions perhaps?

- option of disabling the exifdata totally (find it rather useless information)

- possibility of sub-sub-sub albums if necessary (like fauna=>animals=>insects=>beetles)?

- possibility of popup instead of _blank for the largest image?

- option to set thumbnails ‘largest size’ instead of max. height, so 3/4 sized images will always have the same proportion, wether horizontal or vertical.

thanks!

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